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Tuesday, April 30, 2013

STRAIGHT FROM THE SCHMOOZERS’ MOUTHS – RECAPPING THE PICTURE BOOK CRITIQUE SCHMOOZE




Howdy Schmoozers!

In our ongoing effort to do as little work as possible….ahem….what we mean to say is our ongoing effort to free up valuable time for our own writing and help everyone feel “a part of,” we’ve decided to turn this blog post (mostly) over to the Schmoozers themselves.

We also knew there was NO WAY we could top our Super-Awesome post on last year's PB Critique night anyway (check that one out here:  http://socalschmooze.blogspot.com/2012/02/once-upon-time-westside-writers.html

About 22 of us gathered on April 10th, and we split into four tables, with manuscripts spread out evenly among them.  We got super-fancy this year and decided to name the groups:

  • The Best Table EVER (moderated by Jeff Cox)
  • Running With Words (moderated by Charlie Cohen)
  • The Laughing Bears (moderated by Joseph Taylor)
  • The Island of Misfit Books (moderated by Karol Ruth Silverstein)

Useful feedback was given, and great fun was had by all!

After giving Schmoozers some time to digest their experiences of the night, we queried them with two pertinent questions. 


The most important thing I learned at the Westside Writers Schmooze Picture Book Critique night about my manuscript is…


– That it's funny but needs to be aware of age-appropriate words and lapses in logic. And that it might be better as a mg novel.
Laurie Young

– The importance of a catchy title. Also, how to tighten the writing.
Anjali

Susan Berger
– That it's not complete crap. To haiku or not haiku -- that is the question. So far, haiku is winning the race...
Cheryl Manning

– There is probably room in the world for my kind of book.

Even at 900 words, it's much too long.

– I got a few necessary pinches and much needed confirmation on where I was veering off track and where my road appears smooth ahead with my picture book.
Carol Green

– I felt a bit like a juggler.  Narrative thread . . . check.  Sensory details . . .check.  Clear quest of the main character . . .check.  Oops . . . flow, transitions needed to be polished.
Hard to keep all those balls in the air.
Marilyn Cohon

– It can always be better.
Jeff Cox

Karol Ruth Silverstein
– That my story really is about Moose and Gus, more so than the human characters.  That the pacing still isn’t perfect.  And that I need more of an indication that the boy in the story will be okay at the end.
Karol Ruth Silverstein


The most important thing I learned at the Westside Writers Schmooze Picture Book Critique night about writing picture books is… 


– That our schmooze members are incredibly gifted writers, and that even though Eric Drachman has sold over 700,000 books, he hasn't really made much money from them. And that even a great idea takes a huge amount of skill to make it work.
Laurie Young

– How to pay attention to form and structure.
Anjali

– in a good critique session you really only hear what is useful to you and the rest disappears into the ether.  I thought I would be far more wounded by the critique, whereas I came out thinking of the suggestions that would work, most of which were in the back on my mind and the comments and brainstorming brought these thoughts into my full consciousness.

– Everybody has an opinion. Every opinion has value. At the end of the day, my opinion is the one that matters most (unless ALL the other comments are in agreement).
Cheryl Manning

Answering for her hubby, Cheryl added:  The most important thing Richard learned about writing picture books is that he will NEVER write one.

Michelle Villemarie
– If new readers are saying the same thing-- change it!

– Leave plenty of room for pictures. Do a mock up.  If you must rhyme, there is always RhymeZone. You can tell a beautiful story in very few words. (Thank you, Anjali.)

– So much, since I was starting from zero.  The biography format was fascinating. Not all picture books will appeal to me.  Critique is a lot like brainstorming with colleagues, which I love doing.  I have a much better idea of how to put together some ideas I've had for a very long time.
Deborah Cole

– Word count and formatting correctly are super important. Agents are looking for any reason not to read a manuscript, so don't give them one.
Jeff Cox

 – How varied and deep the form is.  Our table had everything from historical to funny to touching to (perfectly done) rhyming picture books, and they were all well realized.  The amazing thing to me was that each genre was right at home in the picture book form; each one begging for art and calling to mind great images.  Picture book texts are interesting because, at their best, they are only half the story.  Their great power is their ability to imply the other half.  And we had some mighty fine implicating going on at our table.
Charlie Cohen


And here are a few more general comments that we here at Schmooze Central thought we’d pass on:

– I'm so pleased to have found this group!
Deborah Cole

– I went home, revised twice more based on the critiques I received and sent it into the big bad woods of publishing.  Now comes the waiting. I had a wonderful time. I met a couple of Pen and Ink fans. I ate some awesome brownies.  Thank you.
Susan Berger

Carol Green
– Kudos and thanks to Karol & Charlie - who offer camaraderie, compassion and formidable brainpower welcoming newbies into the fold and onto the frontline. You're the best!
Carol Green



…We especially liked that last bit ‘o feedback!

Lastly, as promised, here’s that link to the Checklist for a Good and Helpful Critique, sent to us by the ever-so-wise-and-helpful Greg Pincus:



If you were at the Picture Book Critique Schmooze and wanted to be included in this blog post but didn’t bother responding to our lovely request for input….ahem….what we mean to say is, if you were busy with much more important stuff, please feel free to add your thoughts in the comments below.

Next up:  The Novel Critique Schmooze on May 8th.  Get those pages polished!

Until then, keep passing the open windows,
Charlie & Karol

Tuesday, April 10, 2012

CHARLIE & KAROL’S ULTIMATE WESTSIDE WRITERS NOVEL CRITIQUE SCHMOOZE RECAP


Chapter 1 – Schmooze Week


Crap, crap, crap.

That’s the only word I can come up with to describe:

A. What I’ve gotten done on my novel in the last month, even though I totally knew the once-annually novel critique Schmooze was coming up

***and***

B. The projected quality level of whatever pages I can slap together to bring to the March Schmooze, AKA Wednesday night, AKA three days from now, AKA – CRAP!

How am I supposed to bring something super-impressive when I’ve only got three days left? I mean, I have a reputation to uphold. I totally wowed my tables at the past two novel-critique Schmoozes. What if this time around, all I can be is (gulp) decent?

Breathe. Now – think: What do I need to do to solve this dilemma?

I know, a list. I’ll make a list of the million-and-two things I need to do to clear my head, my desk, my schedule. Yeah, that’ll help. THEN I can write.



Chapter 2 – Lovin’ these critique schmoozes. Nothin’ to ‘em. Got my HIGH-larious Dalton Trumbo letter (that I read a couple years ago at Lee and Rita’s first critique Schmooze, but who’s gonna remember that?), got my same middle grade novel pages that I’ve brought in the past three years (that I really should be rewriting as there IS in fact an editor interested, but hey, maybe the yakity yak at the table’ll put a fire under my ass) and I got my super cool personality that will ease me through the whole thing without breaking a sweat. Don’t know why Karol was so hyped up on the phone; that chick needs a chill pill. Must be hard to be one of the smart kids; always having something to prove. …yawn. Think I’ll grab another beer and sun myself in the yard. Maybe piss in the bushes behind the garage. Get myself a total tan!




Chapter 3 – Schmooze Morning

CCrrrrrrrraaaaaaaappp! HOW did I let this happen?? No seriously, HOW?

I haven’t done any writing – zip, zilch, zero. Okay, that’s not entirely true. I did put in, like, an hour, two days ago. I trimmed a bunch of fat from my scene, wrote out the part I came up with for the very ending and sort of fixed the beginning. There’s just that Gaping Hole between the opening and the end to deal with, and there’s still at least 862 items on my to-do-before-I-can-possibly-even-think-about-maybe-trying-to-write list.

I need to look over my list and prioritize. Maybe there’s some stuff that doesn’t absolutely have to be done pre-writing session. Like, straighten my pajama drawer. Heck, that’s been a mess for two years. It can wait. Play Angry Birds for two hours. Whoops. Forgot to cross that one off. Whew! Nice to see I’ve accomplished something!






Chapter 4 (smacking lips) …hmm. Awesome looking day outside. Ought to swing by Melrose for some Maui Wowie (or Country Chronic if they’re out of Maui again, but really, if they are, I’m gonna start taking my patronage elsewhere), bike up to dirt, maybe head out to the Hub, far from the “federalies” and blow a stick to welcome in spring. …was there something else I had to do today? …whatever.




Chapter 5 – Schmooze Afternoon

One hour to write. Great, just great. What happened to my whole, freakin’ day? Stupid day job! Stupid Facebook! Stupid need to shower!

I shut off the music, the Internet, the cat.

(OK, I don’t “shut off” the cat. I tell him to get off my desk. He ignores me, so I insist he get off my desk. He hisses at me. So I grab the package of kitty treats and lure him off my dang desk.)

Cat on floor, fingers on keyboard…come on, Magic!

I write. For the whole hour, plus a little more. I solve some problems. I have an inspiring idea or two. I enjoy hanging out with my characters. Then I print.

No time to even staple my sets of pages. I fly out the door – you know, not literally or really even physically in terms of speed, but emotionally and spiritually, I fly, baby, I fly.





Chapter 6 Can’t believe the cell worked all the way at the hub. Man, that Karol sounded FREAKED. Really rained on my buzz. Probably a good thing though: I’d’a never made it home in time for the ol’ Schmoozerino tonight. Who knew it was this week? Time, man… know what I mean? Anyway, I gotta admit it’s a little disconcerting that it’s tonight rather than, you know, 7 days from tonight but, hey, … uh… forgot what I was gonna say. No worries though: Got my crap, got my little pages, and I’m ready for the G-L-O-R-Y! Was it Patti Smith of Van Morrison who sang that one?




Chapter 7 – The Drive

Radio blaring, singing at the top of my lungs. That’s how I roll.

I’m beautiful in my way, ‘cause God makes no mistakes. I’m on the right track, baby. I was bo-rn this way…

Sigh. I just love getting my Gaga on during the drive down to Santa Monica. If ONLY I’d left at 6:10, like I’d planned (see: previous “no-time-to-even-staple” chapter). Then maybe I wouldn’t be so panicked about getting there on time.

Just my luck…the crip space behind the library’s open – SWEET!

I’m here. I made it. It’s Novel Critique Schmooze Night! WAH-HOO!!!

…OMG…what if people aren’t staggeringly impressed with my pages?




Chapter 8 Kinda hard to find a space. Lot of folks tonight. Hmm. Wonder if I should’a looked at those pages… Or at least figured out how much of the Trumbo thing to read. Are two single-spaced pages long? Karol would’a probably read it beforehand and timed herself. Ha! LOOOOOOSER! Ah, I got nothin’ to worry about; I’m one of the co-freaking-coordinators for God sakes. And dig my belly tan.




Chapter 9 – Your Typical Pre-Schmooze Madness

Yeah, so, good crowd on hand, maybe 30 people. I go to grab my midnight snack from the goodies table. Man! There's that brownie pie thing again! Don’t mind if I do!

Well, I’m ready, but Charlie’s still running around like a chicken without its chicken hat. I ready my highly important and detailed list of SCBWI announcements, snap the paper a couple times to see if Mr. Clueless is paying attention.

It takes a few more snaps…and a couple ahems…and then I just glare at him a little…and FINALLY he’s back and we can start.




Chapter 10 …wow, these pages from my ms sure seem bloated. When did that happen? Wonder if there’s time to line out all the boring crap on all the copies while Karol is yammering on about SCBWI stuff—ah man, probably don't have time. No worries: I got Dalton to save my ass. However bad my pages are, they’ll eat that stuff up.




Chapter 11 – S.N.A.R.K.Y. – In That Good Way

Time to revisit the fabulous SNARKY acronym for the suggested critique method that we came up with (and by we I mean me or rather I…except for the K, which was all Charlie because I’d basically forgotten there’s a K in “snarky” – my bad).

Where was I? Oh, yeah, creating a safe, nurturing environment, so Schmoozers don’t go running out of the library in tears, never to write again…blah, blah, blah.

Making art is a tough road, people!


Charlie’s up next with a scathingly funny letter written by Dalton Trumbo to his pal, Ring Lardner, describing for Ring the various soul-crushing ways he’s about to critique Ring’s manuscript.

Hoo-boy! Fun-NEE! The Schmoozers are eating it up!

Hmm…I think he may be losing them… Great, end of the page.

OMG. He’s reading page 2.




Chapter 12 Man… not sure if that took forever or if it just seemed that way when everyone stopped laughing in the middle of paragraph 2. Should’a stopped before 3. And I really don’t know why I went on to 4. Bad enough without Sara’s crack that I terrified everyone. You could tell they all agreed. They love her so much. With her purple hair. And her not-being-old. She’s always had it in for me. I hate her.




Chapter 13 Our First Ever (We Think) Super-Awesome Schmooze Raffle (that I completely screw up)

SO exciting! Everyone’s written their names on slips of paper that will go into a hat, and then our very own celebrity debut author, Sara Wilson Etienne is going to pick out the winner - who gets an autographed copy of Sara's book, Harbinger. I’ve loved this idea ever since I came up with it a couple months ago.

Charlie hits each table, collecting entries. Sara’s in position, ready to to pluck out the winning name. I position my camera and….CRAP! Why isn’t my camera working?? WHY?!

I realize it’s still on video mode from when I recorded an adorable video of my cat not getting off the desk when I asked him to.

I get it back on still mode, but I’m too late.

I miss the moment entirely.

…like I’m back at high school and that really cute boy I’ve been crushing on, who’s so completely out of my league that it’s dumb for me to even be crushing on him at all, asks me for help with his Spanish homework, and I say yes because it means I’ll get to hang out with him for a few hours, even if he’s really only into my weird ability to memorize Spanish vocabulary, and we end up having a really fun time, laughing and looking up dirty phrases in my Spanish dictionary and he mentions that some classic Pedro Almodovar movie's playing at the local art house theater that weekend and we should go, and for a moment, for just one fleeting moment in time, I consider saying, “yeah, sure” all casual, like it's No Big Deal that he basically just ASKED ME OUT, but before I can get the words out of my mouth, his cell chimes with a new text message and then he forgets all about the movie, and I miss the moment entirely.

Damn you stupid, fleeting moments-in-time!

When I eventually snap out of my disappointment, I see that Charlie’s already at his table, and he and the other table leaders are getting started. So I grab a seat at my designated table, bringing my dejection with me.

And as luck would have it – or maybe the Universe plans it this way – I end up sitting with the proud winner of Our First Ever (We Think) Super-Awesome Schmooze Raffle, Penelope, and she graciously poses with her prize.

We launch into Official Critique Mode and – WOW – everybody’s material is so interesting and different and special. Even my last-minute-not-even-stapled pages go over pretty well, and my tablemates have some way-helpful feedback for me. Very cool!



Chapter 14 That wasn’t so bad. They all caught the bloated part, of course. But they caught a lot of other, deeper stuff too that I hadn’t even noticed. And it was stuff that fits in with the stuff that editor said about reworking the book so, that’s good, I guess. Only bad thing was they all seem to think I could make it into something really good which I guess means I’ll have to actually work on the thing. Rats.

The other drag was how good their stuff was. Some was, like, publishing-ready-good. That kinda’ pissed me off, actually. Who brings stuff that good to a critique night? I mean, the idea of a critique night is to bring stuff that needs to be better, right? Not stuff that’s perfect—ahh, screw it. Next year, I’m gonna show ‘em. I’m gonna do some actual polishing before critique night. Heck, maybe I’ll even bring something new! I’ll be as much of a nerd as Karol. Guess it’s like ol’ Billy said: “Writing doth make nerds of us all.”

So off to Swingers, the secret party everyone knows about, where all the cool kids go to eat after the Schmoozes. I was a little worried that they’d shove me to one of the ancillary single-person tables after the whole Trumbo thing, but Karol invited me to sit right by her like it never happened. Sara even talked to me… guess she’s alright. Guess they’re all alright.

For a bunch of word-nerds.


Epilogue: The Drive Home


Speeding down the 10 toward home, my mood is more Bruno Mars than Gaga.


Oh, you know, you know, you know I’d never ask you to change.
If perfect’s what you’re searching for, then just stay then same.


Ah, perfection. Even if my pages aren’t perfect…yet, this year’s Novel Critique Schmooze sure was!




Man, I gotta pee like a race-horse. Soon as I get home, I’m racing behind that garage and: MOON-TAN, DUDE!!!







The End



Well, THAT was fun! Hope to see you all at the next Schmooze - Wednesday, April 18th. Our topic's COMEDY TONIGHT, so come prepared to share a few paragraphs from your favorite funny book, and together, we'll try to figure out how the writer made it so darn funny.


Keep passing the open windows,
Charlie & Karol

Friday, February 24, 2012

Once Upon A Time, the Westside Writer's Schmooze Had Picture Book Critique Night....

One cold, February day…



Charlie woke up...



…and realized it was nearly time for the Picture Book Critique Schmooze!







He immediately called Karol.

“Gosh that’s right,” said Karol (‘cause Karol always says gosh). “We’d better get cracking. I’ll work on a nifty new acronym to remind people not to be cruel and unusual with their critiques.”

“Good idea,” said Charlie. “And I’ll get water and cookies and other important stuff.”



Before they knew it, Schmooze Night was here!


As usual, the Schmooze was quite well attended.




There were even a bunch of newcomers.






About 30 Schmoozers in all!




Karol kicked things off by announcing some of the upcoming events sponsored by the awesome


Like:






Then Charlie fascinated the group with his extremely detailed discussion of how to critique, and how to listen to a critique including such valuable tidbits as telling critiquers “Do not expect authors to agree, just to listen,” and telling authors “Do not agree, just listen.”






Everyone was rapt.





Karol woke the crowd back up when she revealed the Snarktastic acronym she and Charlie had come up with:




Shortly thereafter, and following a chaotic round of mayhem and musical chairs while we tried to get the same number of people with manuscripts at each of the five tables, everyone got down to work.








It was a wonderful and rewarding time. There were so many talented writers – who were all incredibly generous with their comments.


Many breakthroughs were had.














“But what about US?!” cried the novelists in the room. “WE need Schmoozerific help, too!”

“Never fear,” Charlie and Karol assured them.










At next month’s Schmooze on March 14th, it’ll be time for the middle grade and young adult writers to shine…or crumble under the weight of crushing disappointment when they’re forced to face the reality that their manuscripts are not completely and utterly PERFECT.




Kidding! We will insist upon the same SNARKY approach from critiquers…um, we mean snarky in that good way!




PLUS – we’re having a first-ever (we think) super-awesome SCHMOOZE RAFFLE!

All Schmoozers in attendance get to put their names in a hat for a chance to win a very special prize!







With that, everyone raced home with their brand-spanking-new notes, eager to revise their works of genius, submit them, and succeed!

Except the novelists, who’ll no doubt race home after next month’s Schmooze with brand-spanking-new notes, eager to revise their works of genius, submit them, and succeed!




As for Charlie and Karol, their work was done, so they decided to get some much-deserved rest.



The end.

EXCEPT – wait!

Since LOTS of great books have author’s notes and acknowledgements at the end, naturally, so does this one:

Big thanks to Joe, Lupe and Greg for leading tables at the Schmooze!

And for a little more info on making your manuscript shine and/or helping your writing buddies make theirs shine, here are some of the critiquing links that Charlie talked about…

Picture Book Critique questions by Sarah Wones Tomp:

http://writingonthesidewalk.wordpress.com/2010/02/04/picture-book-critique-questions/

Top Ten Questions Dutton Editors Ask Themselves When Looking At A Manuscript

http://kathytemean.wordpress.com/2009/12/14/top-ten-question-dutton-editors-ask-themselves/

How to critique a picture book text by Sherryl Clark

http://www.ebooks4writers.com/2011/04/how-to-critique-a-picture-book-text/

Ellen Jackson’s discussion of picture book plots

http://www.ellenjackson.net/picture_book_plots_61455.htm





And remember, keep passing the open windows…

Charlie & Karol